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Cyclic to throttle mixing-

         When a pilot performs a roll or a flip, higher loads are placed on the helicopter’s engine.  During the maneuver the engine will bog down under load and give sluggish response.  To help maintain engine power during demanding maneuvers, cyclic to throttle mixing is used.  This means that when a cyclic input is made, throttle is also automatically added by the radio.  Depending on your radio, there are certain ways to set up this mix.  If you own a Futaba 9z, the radio already has a built in mixer designed especially for this purpose.  I do not know if the JR 10x also has it, but I presume it does.  For the rest of us mere mortals with 8103’s, Super8’s, 9C’s, and other lesser radios, manufacturers have elected to not supply this mix (probably in a feeble attempt to get us to upgrade to their radios that do).  However, we do have two “programmable mixers” in the radio that we can use as cyclic to throttle mixers.
         Aileron to throttle and elevator to throttle each need their own programmable mix.  They will enable you to specify a percentage mix to the throttle, and usually 25-30% is an average number.  This simply means that during a full stick aileron roll, 25% additional throttle is added to supply additional power.  If both aileron and elevator are input together (under normal flight conditions this should not happen!), up to 50% extra throttle may be added.  Now, we run into a problem if our throttle is already at 80% and then we attempt to do a full stick roll, adding an additional 25% throttle.  80% + 25% = 105%.  In other words, the radio will be telling the throttle servo to open the carb to 105%, which is impossible.  If this happens, the carb will reach its limit and stop while the throttle servo will attempt to push it farther, resulting in servo stall, throttle arm bending/breaking, and/or other bad things.  Imagine if you were at full throttle and then also tried to do a roll, this would be 125%!  Not good.
        The problem here is that our travel limits, known as ATV or EPA, do not specify the maximum allowable servo throw.  They work as advertised for normal servo operation, but as soon as a mixer tells the servo to go farther, ATV’s go out the window and the radio freely exceeds them.  Many articles have been written about this- MHT comes to mind here, so I won’t get into the details.  But because of this problem, we need away to deal with the extra servo travel.  A few methods are used today, one is to electronically max out the servo so it can go no farther, and the other is to use some type of device that absorbs the extra travel without anything being damaged.
         Method one is done by first subtrimming the throttle servo in the full throttle direction as far as the transmitter will allow (120% for Futaba).  Make sure your linkages are disconnected!   This uses up most of the extra servo travel, but not all.  Now increase the high throttle ATV just until the point where the servo stops turning.  This is the point where at 100% throttle, the servo is right at the end of its maximum travel.  Any commands to go farther by the transmitter are disregarded by the servo.  This method works well, but does have some problems.  First is that the high throttle ATV is a large number, probably 115%+.  If we wanted to have a linear throttle response, we would also need to set the bottom ATV also to 115%.  Now the servo is traveling very far, and in order to get the correct amount of throw at the carb we have to use a very short arm on the throttle servo.  With this arrangement, high ATV’s and a short arm, the throttle is going to act very sluggish, since the servo has to turn a long way.  Even if we set the bottom ATV to a smaller number such as 60%, this results in nonlinear servo response and throttle curves that don’t appear to make any sense.  It will work, but I don’t feel that this is the perfect answer to the problem.
         Method 2- Most radios allow you to turn on and off your programmable mixes at a specific throttle stick position.  You can tell the radio to turn off your p-mixes just at the throttle point where the mixes would just begin to overdrive your carb. HOWEVER, only one throttle stick position can be used.  If you set this up to be high throttle stick position, this works well for upright flight, but what happens if you are doing an inverted climbout at low stick (high throttle) and then command a roll.  The mixers will not turn off and your servo will still overdrive the carb.  Until we can set two stick positions to turn on and off the cyclic to throttle mix, this method is not effective.
        Method 3 is to use a device to absorb the extra servo travel.  This can be anything such as a very flexible servo arm, a spring type “Servo saver” as seen on r/c car steering servos, a spring steel pushrod with a U bent in the center, or a solder clevis sliding on a pushrod up against a piece of fuel tubing that will compress when the carb reaches its limit.  Not all of these are pretty, but the last one gets my vote for the most effective and “trick” looking setup.  Using a device like this, the absorbing part of the pushrod is stiff enough that the carb responds as usual within its operating range.  When the full throttle limit is hit, the device will compress until a lower throttle setting is commanded.  The advantage to using this setup is that the throttle servo can be set up normally, using linear ATV’s of the users choice.  Preferred throttle setup is another whole can of worms that I won’t get into, but hopefully you understand why this method gives the greatest number of options.
        I hope this clears up a thing or two that you may have wondered about cyclic to throttle mixing.  Good luck with whatever method you choose.  Please write me an email if you have some comments or experiences you would like to share.

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